Ruby community and Debian (was: Go (golang) packaging, part 2)
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:57:03 +0100, Michael Stapelberg
>Wouter Verhelst <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
>> "consistency across multiple platforms" has been claimed as a benefit
>> for allowing "gem update --system" to replace half of the ruby binary
>> package, amongst other things. It wasn't a good argument then, and it
>> isn't a good argument now.
>I am not familiar with the Ruby situation, I only know that many Ruby
>developers seem to be very angry at Debian people. Is there a summary of
>the events that I could read?
In my past experience it is the usual case where and upstream and/or
its community takes at as a personal offense when a user is not using
the latest and greatest software version and does not understand
that one might be mandated to use what a third party (here: Debian)
found fit to freeze for a release a year or more ago.
This attitude can be found upon many upstreams communities (for
example, in Open/LibreOffice and KDE), but is even harder with ruby
since ruby packages seem to be so small that there are so many of
them, that they have something resembling a release process for a
rubygems bundle package, introducing the time lag caused by releases
once for them and once for us, and that our packaging of their softwae
was done in a way that ruby packages are the biggest nightmare to
backport that I have ever seen (gem2deb, 'nuff said).
I do sincerely hope that most of those things will be history when
wheezy is released.
 up to "what, you're only using what we released last week? Please
upgrade to our git head and check back.
 I think it was between woody and sarge when more and more package
began to rely on a debhelper version that wasn't backportable because
it used a perl language construct that was not available in the past's
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