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Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

Matthias Klumpp <matthias@tenstral.net> writes:

> For syslogd, systemd provides journald for those who want to use it,
> but the Journal is no dependency of systemd.

Wrong. You can't have any recent systemd without the Journal, and
'legacy' syslogds are piggybacking on /run/systemd/journal/syslog, where
the journal forwards syslog messages to. There's no way around that, you
can't turn the journal off.

> (Since most stuff uses syslog calls, this is not an issue. Also,
> systemd does not require journald, even for Fedora it is not safe yet
> if they will use the journal or not)

What Fedora & co are considering, is not requiring the journal (it comes
enabled since F17 already), but having no 'legacy' syslogd installed by
default along with it. [1]

 [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd-journal


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