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Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

Hi there!

Just some small notes without re-iterating what other people already
wrote in this (now too-long) thread.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:26:06 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> Am 12.10.2011 23:39, schrieb Josh Triplett:
>> Not every system needs an MTA, and I'd argue that today most systems
>> don't.
> I agree with the counter-arguments in this thread, that a default UNIX
> server setup should contain an MTA. This also is true for desktop
> systems of advanced UNIX sysadmins.

I think that the real question is: how much should Debian GNU/Linux
mimic a standard UNIX system by default?

> But if Debian cares about desktop users which don't know the internals
> of a Linux/UNIX system, we need to accept that they have a very
> different vision of a default installation. For them a system should be
> kept easy, with as few daemons as possible.

I do not see why a system with a lot of daemons should not be considered
easy or, IOW, the two things are not mutually self-exclusive.

> For them things like power consumption and RAM usage of default
> systems count much more than whether the system has all required
> elements of a standard UNIX system.

As Steve already pointed out [1], there is user-friendly software bigger
and more memory-eater than MTAs.  I run Postfix on my laptop [2] and
have no problem using it [my laptop] for ~3h on battery, but as soon as
I start XULrunner everything changes [3] (and I do not use any fancy DE,
simply ratpoison, screen and Emacs).

[1] <http://lists.debian.org/20111015193508.GE5495%40virgil.dodds.net>
[2] except for the SSD, my laptop is "old" (mostly 5-year-old)
[3] <http://bugs.debian.org/641541>

> To make my point clear: I'm much in favour of supporting default
> installations without a MTA.

Just to be clear as well: I am not.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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