Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:24:26AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Ben Hutchings <firstname.lastname@example.org> [2011-04-03 20:56]:
> > The kernel necessarily holds the working network configuration, though
> > it lacks e.g. credentials for WPA or 802.1x which are handled by
> > user-space. User-space can change that state, and can read the state
> > (including waiting for updates) using netlink. User-space needs to
> > provide policy for potential states, and authentication credentials.
> > I think that what people like about ifupdown (when it works) is that
> > they can say 'put this interface in this state' and then go on to tweak
> > that state. ifupdown often fails at this because it relies on state
> > files that can become stale, and it doesn't understand dependencies. NM
> > fails because it doesn't support many of the configurations that people
> > want, and because it will try to re-enter the configured state again
> > after e.g. a link reset.
> Does this imply that "fixing" ifupdown to query the state(s) via netlink
> instead of relying on state files would solve most of the problems?
I expect so, but it would be a very big 'fix'.
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