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Re: Disable ZeroConf: how to ?

On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 11:32:01AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> A user that installs Debian on his system will do that due to the
> reputation in security. If he want to have a simpler system he would
> install, for example, Ubuntu, Mac or Windows.
> I do not think that Debian should be good for every DAU (German
> abbreviation, English would be luser or so). I think Debian should be a
> distribution for experts and professionals (but not exclusive).

This is where we disagree.

You seem to believe that Debian's usefulness should be confined to a
particular niche of users; a niche which conveniently includes you.

I disagree. While it certainly would make your particular use case
easier, I think Debian should strive to be useful to as many users as
possible. This isn't always possible (for instance, Debian will most
likely never be very useful to people who only want to use Microsoft
Office), but that should not interfere with the desire to strive for
that end goal.

Just because Ubuntu is a popular distribution for beginning Linux users
should not have to mean that 'beginning Linux users' is no longer a
target audience for Debian.

If security matters a great deal to you, you should audit systems for
unwanted services and disable them, rather than hope that whatever you
have installed happens not to be a problem for your particular use case.
Relying on defaults to be secure is relying on other people to do your
security for you. This is stupid, in all cases. That's not to say that
our defaults should be insecure, but 'acceptable security' is a
stretchable concept; the security trade-offs that you are willing to
live with may be stricter than mine, and vice versa.

If you're unfamiliar with computers, on the other hand, chances that
you'll be able to figure out how to enable convenience services are
slim, at best. Since home users typically use computers in a desktop
environment, I therefore think it's perfectly okay to have the default
desktop installation enable such convenience services.

The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters
works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is
trying to fool the system.

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