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Re: Can insserv made better?



On Sun January 16 2011 04:40:02 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> AFAIK insserv doesn't guess. "Much less info" is the dependencies
> listed in the scripts themselves, right? Isn't this enough?

That is correct.  However there are far fewer dependencies
listed in the headers than implicit in the Snn/Knn numbers,
so some but not all previously working systems are broken.

> Is the problem insserv itself or wrong dependency lists?

The problem is wrong thinking.  Snn/Knn implicitly contain
many dependencies which are not needed on most systems, so
they are not included in the scripts.  However removing
those dependencies breaks some but not all systems.

That is why people should be given accurate information in
order to be able to make an informed choice, instead of
being tricked into using insserv and breaking their systems.

I filed a bug[1] with a simple patch[2] to give people fair
notice of the pros and cons of insserv but unfortunately
Julien Cristau simply closed the bug without explanation[3].

--Mike Bird

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610185
[2] 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=sysv-rc-postinst-clarification.patch;att=1;bug=610185
[3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=7;bug=610185


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