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Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:36:11AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Ah yes, Iceape. Their releases are so few and far between, this could
> possibly mean that we won't see Iceweasel 3.6 or Icedove 3.1 for some
> time, correct? Upstream Seamonkey 2.1 will be build against gecko 1.9.3,
> but its release date is TBD. Upstream Firefox 4 is due the end of the
> year, based on 1.9.3, and will likely be ahead of Seamonkey. So where
> does that put us? Seems trying to keep the two projects aligned is some
> task. :)

(note 1.9.3 is apparently going to be reversioned to 2.0)

> Will Iceweasel 4 go into Sid when Iceape 2.1 goes into Sid?

3.6 will go into sid when squeeze is released. It will remain in
experimental until then, except if the plans change.
4.0 betas will go into experimental then. In the meanwhile, they will
probably be provided somewhere on mozilla.debian.net.
4.0 will go into sid when it is released.

> > First, TB 3.1 has just been released, and as such hasn't been widely
> > tested in Debian. It usually isn't very wise, that close to the expected
> > freeze time, to upload a new major release of a not exactly small and
> > trivial software.
> I can understand this, but I would imagine the release of Squeeze is at
> least 8-10 months out. We still have a good deal of RC bugs to get
> through. Of course, packages this size will add to the count.

Supposedly, the freeze is somewhen in august. After that, getting a new
major version in the archive is a no-go.

> > Second, for the reasons given earlier, releasing with iceweasel 3.6 and
> > icedove 3.1 would mean to avoid releasing with iceape 2.0. This may not
> > be a huge problem, as we already didn't release lenny with iceape, but
> > see below.
> Iceape is a beautiful piece of software, and I have run it in the past.
> But market share shows that Seamonkey/Iceape users are the minority,
> with Firefox/Iceweasel and Thunderbird/Icedove the vast majority.
> Releasing Lenny without Iceape was the best move, IMO.

If Debian accounted for market share, it would dump a whole lot of
packages. There are a lot of packages with less users than iceape.

> > All in all, I still think releasing squeeze with iceape 2.0, iceweasel
> > 3.5 and icedove 3.0 is the best course of action.
> Is this really the best move? With Firefox 4 due the end of the year,
> and 3.6 will be a year old already, the security team will be supporting
> 3.5 after Mozilla stops it's support. Same might be the case with
> Icedove 3.0.

Choosing between 3.5 and 3.6 on that alone is not enough.
As I said, Mozilla will also stop supporting 3.6 way before squeeze
security support ends.


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