Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?
On 02/12/09 at 09:27 +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> Hello Angus,
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 09:06, Angus <charmender@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Python3 was released upstream exactly 1 year ago, but Python3.* still
> > hasn't been released in Debian Unstable.
> > Hell, even the even older Python2.6 is not there yet.
> >
> > I appreciate all the hard work that needs to done to maintain
> > packages, but if you're going to maintain packages as important as
> > these, take some responsibility already and make the effort! Or
> > otherwise, let someone else do it (like me).
> >
> > Does Debian even have a roadmap for Python? If there is any, I'm not
> > seeing it. At least be transparent about your tardiness.
>
> The problem with Python (interpreters packages) is the maintainer,
> that's force us in his one-man-show and, as you can see, it's failing
> loudly. Matthias is holding back the release and his not willing to
> communicate to the project (nor as a whole nor to the small group of
> people maintaining modules & apps, that keeps asking him about it) his
> plan or anything at all about these packages.
>
> Buy hey, let's close our eyes and pretend he's doing a good job...
>
> This (and other) rant are a signal we should create a TEAM around any
> fundamental packages in Debian, and python MUST NOT be and exception.
>
> Am I the only one (together with Angus, I'd say) believing python
> deserves a better maintainership than the one it currently has?
Seriously, Sandro. Do you really think that, in Matthias' position, you
would agree to team-maintain Python with people that attack you so
harshly on public mailing lists?
If you really think that Matthias is not doing a proper job maintaining
Python, behave like in adult and use the correct Debian process: ask the
technical committee to hand over the Python packages to you (or a team).
Errors have probably been made on both sides in this story. But on
Matthias' side, I've never seen any aggressiveness towards you or
Josselin, or at least not at all comparable to the shit you give him.
It's a bit too easy to behave like an ass and insult him, and then
complain that he is not talking to you or willing to work with you.
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