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Discussion period: GR: DFSG violations in Lenny



Hi,

        At this point, the following people have sponsored and seconded
 the proposals detailed below. As best I can tell, the final proposal
 (4) to get enough sponsors got it at Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:38:41 UTC.

        So, we now have a discussion period of two weeks, though I would
 prefer to actually start the vote Sunday 00:00:00 UTC (on November
 23th, or, if the DPL desires to shorten the discussion period, november
 16th).

        (BTW, I am a huge fan of these embedded spreadsheets)
|----------------------------------------------------+---+---+---+---|
|                                                    | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
|----------------------------------------------------+---+---+---+---|
| Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>                    | 1 | 1 | 1 |   |
| Bas Wijnen <wijnen@debian.org>                     | 1 |   |   |   |
| Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>             | 1 | 1 |   |   |
| Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>              | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>                   | 1 | 1 | 1 |   |
| Hubert Chathi <uhoreg@debian.org                   | 1 | 1 | 1 |   |
| Andreas Barth <aba@not.so.argh.org>                |   |   |   | 1 |
| Alexander Reichle-Schmehl <alexander@schmehl.info> |   |   |   | 1 |
| Reinhard Tartler <siretart@debian.org>             |   |   |   |   |
| Bernd Zeimetz <bernd@bzed.de>                      |   |   |   | 1 |
| Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org>                   |   |   |   | 1 |
| Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>                      |   | 1 | 1 |   |
| vanicat@debian.org (Rémi Vanicat)                  | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
|----------------------------------------------------+---+---+---+---|
|                                                    | 7 | 7 | 6 | 6 |
|----------------------------------------------------+---+---+---+---|
#+TBLFM: $2=vsum(@2$2..@14$2)::$3=vsum(@2$3..@14$3)::$4=vsum(@2$4..@14$4)::$5=vsum(@2$5..@14$5)

        The ballot and wml for the vote web pages should now be drafted
 by the sponsors, to be put into place by the secretary team.

        manoj

,----[ Proposal 1: reaffirm the Social Contract ]
|  1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
|     community (Social Contract #4);
| 
|  2. We acknowledge that we promised to deliver a 100% free operating system
|     (Social Contract #1);
| 
|  3. Given that we have known for two previous releases that we have
|     non-free bits in various parts of Debian, and a lot of progress has
|     been made, and we are almost to the point where we can provide a
|     free version of the Debian operating system, we will delay the
|     release of Lenny until such point that the work to free the operating
|     system is complete (to the best of our knowledge as of 1 November 2008).
`----


,----[ Proposal 2: allow Lenny to release with proprietary firmware ]
|  1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
|     community (Social Contract #4);
|
|  2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel firmware
|     issue; most of the issues that were outstanding at the time of the
|     last stable release have been sorted out. However, new issues in the
|     kernel sources have cropped up fairly recently, and these new issues
|     have not yet been addressed;
|
|  3. We assure the community that there will be no regressions in the
|     progress made for freedom in the kernel distributed by Debian
|     relative to the Etch release in Lenny (to the best of our knowledge
|     as of 1 November 2008);

|  4. We give priority to the timely release of Lenny over sorting every
|     bit out; for this reason, we will treat removal of sourceless
|     firmware as a best-effort process, and deliver firmware as part of
|     Debian Lenny as long as we are legally allowed to do so.
|
| (Since this option overrides the SC, I believe it would require 3:1
| majority)
`----

,----[ Proposal 3: (allow Lenny to release with DFSG violations ]
|  1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
|     community (Social Contract #4);
|
|  2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress on DFSG compliance
|     issues; however, they are not yet finally sorted out;
|
|  3. We assure the community that there will be no regressions in the
|     progress made for freedom in the packages distributed by Debian
|     relative to the Etch release in Lenny (to the best of our knowledge
|     as of 1 November 2008);
|
|  4. We give priority to the timely release of Lenny over sorting every
|     bit out; for this reason, we will treat fixing of DFSG violations as
|     a best-effort process.
|
| (Since this option overrides the SC, I believe it would require 3:1
| majority)
`----

,----[ Proposal 4 ]
|  Debian's priorities are our users and free software. We don't trade
|  them against each other. However during getting an release out of the
|  door, decisions need to be done how to get a rock stable release of the
|  high quality Debian is known for, release more or less on time, and to
|  minimize the usage of problematic software. We acknowledge that there
|  is more than just one minefield our core developers and the release
|  team are working at.
|  
|  We as Developers at large continue to trust our release team to follow
|  all these goals, and therefor encourage them to continue making
|  case-by-case-decisions as they consider fit, and if necessary
|  authorize these decisions.
|
|  (Since this option overrides the SC, I believe it would require 3:1
|  majority)
`----

        We need a title for proposal 4, which allows the release team to
 override the social contract using case-by-case decisions.


        manoj
-- 
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