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Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 01:08:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Therefore, I still feel that, despite it being a big mess, the current
> > situation is the best:
> >       * the default menu contains only what is needed, and we are still
> >         hunting down entries that are useless to make them not show up
> >         by default;
> >       * users wanting the Debian menu and its gazillions of entries
> >         including window managers, terminal emulators and shell
> >         interpreters can enable it easily in the menu editor;
> >       * those really wanting only the Debian menu can replace
> >         gnome-applications.menu by debian-menu.menu.
> > 
> > If you want this to change, you need to seriously think about evolutions
> > to both XDG and Debian menu systems, to convince fd.o and the Debian
> > menu maintainer to implement them
> Actually, no, if you want this to change, you have only to do nothing.
> People (many of them MOTUs from Ubuntu in my experience) are filing lots of
> requestes for random packages to have .desktop files added to them, so
> they appear in the gnome menu. The criteria seems to be "a program that
> $RANDOM_USER would like to have on the menu and files a bug about ||
> that $RANDOM_UPSTREAM ships a desktop file for, for whatever reason".
> So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random
> assortment of the menu items that also appear in the debian menu. Not a
> well-chosen and consistent assortment, but the kind of random assortment
> that you get when you ignore policy and go off on your own way.

I agree with you, but I am only the 'Debian menu maintainer' and I do
not have time or interest to maintain the .desktop files in Debian.
Instead people (not you) ask me transparently to stop maintaining menu
and maintain the .desktop files instead, but no one is willing to do
the work. (And of course .desktop is about 10% of the XDG spec).

Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

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