Quoting Ben Finney (bignose+hates-spam@benfinney.id.au): > lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > > > Given most people don't use the console ever > > Where is your data for this assertion? Probably too wide generalization by Lennart. My own assertion was that people who use the console *on an enough regular basis* (ie to do real work) are clever enough to figure out that using the mouse in the console needs installing gpm. I think that this assertion is true. Of course, I have nothing to prove it except common sense (I was about to joke and say that the people mentioned above are Joey Schulze....:-)) > > installing a service that is only for console use by default is > > simply wrong. The less services need to be enabled by default the > > better. > > This argument would also see the removal of 'login', since that's not > needed by your putative majority of people who don't log in over > text-only interfaces. ...which would mean dropping the possibility of having a basic login in virtual consoles. Of course, noone will ever think that. The point I bringed in that discussion is that virtual consoles are essentially a fallback for the vast majority of users. And one could assume that a mouse is not strictly needed for a fallback. > > This argument fails for the same reason: just because *few* people use > it is not sufficient reason to drop it from the install. If you don't > want 'gpm' installed, you need a different argument. What we want to bring is that having only few people needing it makes a good reason to not install it by default (and have it ask questions to users, indeed).
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