Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
I know there is backports.org -however this, and the testing, unstable,
stable, volatile, experimental.. So many package versions, so much duplicate
work..
I do not think that the work between the things you mentioned is really
duplicated.
I think, any new stable version of the desktop software should be
automaticaly added to security updates and distributed to end user.
Uhmm, I think you missed the point about security updates.
I would see an option to make backports more official and perhaps
there is even a slight chance to use autobuilders in some cases
to support backports (better informed people might correct me),
but the cruxial thing in you sentence is the "I think" part: It
does not only people who have good ideas - we just need people
who do the actual work. Are you willing to work on the problem
you just uncovered?
There's
no need to test the tested and stabilise the stable software. Should the new
stable version be broken, let's give the user easy way to downgrade, and help
upstream to fix it fast.
This is just a personal point of view. A complete distribution is
a complex system of several components that interact with each other.
The chances to replace a key component and break something else are
really high. From a users point of view I would hate if people
call something "stable" and are risking to break my system.
Moreover, I could suggest the backporting work to be "moved" closer to
upstream and further from Debian itself. Other distros do lot of backport
work too, so working together somewhere in the upstream's playground could
bless all together.
I would move it into the other direction: If you want to make Debian
better for Debian user you have to move backports closer to Debian.
It is absolutely no contradiction to work together with upstream, but
I see no profit for the Debian stable end user here.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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