On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:36:28 +0930 "kamping_kaiser@internode.on.net" <kamping_kaiser@internode.on.net> wrote: > > Not only packagers can go though NM. It is a > > measure of > > commitment to the ideals and foundation documents of the > > project, as much as it is a test of skills and patience. > > So this means NM includes other then packaging? I'm for > that. Yes, the NM site is clear on that - translators, documentation writing, there's lots to do without needing to do packaging. > They can let me know what they wish (that is what > > wishlist bugs > > are for, no?), and I pay attention to what they want, and > > what is good > > for them, but I do not ask "how high?" when users say > > "Jump!" > > The question (as i saw it) was more aobut who can vote Only Debian Developers. > - i > dont expect you to leave the ground when a user says 'jump'. > but if the only user whos allowed to say jump is a DD, then > therse a problem. Users have ways of requesting that things get done in Debian - the BTS, the mailing lists and IRC but users cannot dictate how those things are actually achieved. If the DD agrees, fine - if not, the DD makes the call. Only other DD's can stipulate *how* things actually get done and not just because only DD's can actually change Policy. There's no problem with that. Users can ask but DD's are not obliged to act on the suggestion in the way that the user requests. A suggestion from a fellow DD carries more weight but even then, unless there is a stipulation in Policy, a suggestion from a DD is still a suggestion. Equally, DD's who appear to ignore users would eventually find that other DD's find a solution to the problem(s) raised by the user(s) via an NMU, co-maintenance, etc. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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