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Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:22:51PM +0000, John Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:13:53 +0200, Pierre Habouzit
> <madcoder@debian.org> wrote:
> >> > > Only you are talking about willy-nilly changes... besides we as Debian
> >> > > only want our users the freedom to be able to if they wanted it, to
> >> > > willy-nilly modify the RFC text.
> >>
> >> > I'm shaking my head in stunned disbelief.
> >>
> >> He says "We as Debian," but I wonder if a majority truly agree.  IMO,
> >> only wackos would willy-nilly modify RFC text.
> >
> >  Damn, now I'm a wacko. So I dare say you're an insulting moron.
> If Debian is the distro for wackos, so be it.
> But I have to wonder if your loud clique could muster a majority in a
> vote over whether RFCs should be removed from Debian.

  And (as you proved so many times in the thread) you didn't read what I
said. I said "I'm a wacko" meaning "Yes I have modified RFC's in the
past" in the sense that I wrote document that were protocols derived
from actual RFCs, with some extensions and simplifications.

  I did not took any kind of position on the matter in that thread yet.
But to make you happy I will: there is little point in shipping rfc's
that are mirrored everywhere on the interwebs, and rfc's are clearly
non-free, and do not end up in the final binary package. So there is no
point in no stripping them from the source package as it's not near
being burden for the maintainers, who after all, are the ones that
suffer the "most" of that decision.

  Knowing that, you're the one feeding this storm in a teacup, _and_ you
are doing it quite loudly. Please stop, or bring this elsewhere.
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org

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