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Re: Bug#433143: ITP: bzr-rebase -- Rebase plugin for Bazaar



On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:14:06 +1000, Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net> said: 

> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 09:11 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:19:59 +1000, Robert Collins
>> <robertc@robertcollins.net> said:
>> 
>> >  * rename the 'bazaar' package to 'baz' - both source and binary,
>> >    though binary is the key one. This is because it is no longer
>> >    the recommended tool from the 'Bazaar VCS Project' rather it is
>> >    deprecated. Its useful for conversions to bzr though, so keeping
>> >    it as 'baz' is good.
>> 
>> That is not the only use for it. bzr is an inplementation of Arch,
>> and there are people who have not bought the 'Bazaar VCS Project'
>> koolaid, and still prefer Arch to the new VCS.

> Thats fine, they are welcome to keep using Arch. 'baz' itself is
> unmaintained, though many of the patches in it relative to 'tla' have
> been incorporated upstream.

        If baz ever bit rots, I might pick it up. At the  moment, it
        works just fine.

>> >  * Create a 'bazaar' package which is a metapackage depending on
>> >    bzr,
>> > recommending key plugins, and suggesting others.
>> 
>> This would be a bug.  While I understand you prefer the bzr VCS over
>> Arch, I see no justification for imposing your likes and dislikes
>> over users happily using baz as their version control system.  I
>> would be most annoyed if baz would have been replaced by bzr on my
>> systems if the sysadmin dude did not notice the change.

> Curiosity: I take it then that you are still using baz, rather than
> tla?

        I use either interchangeably.  My finger have acquired a weird
 selection of one or the other over time.

>> A note in NEWS.Debian about your preferred VCS would be OK, I
>> suppose, but please come up with a bewtter upgrade plan for current
>> users of baz.

> A starting point is to do the package rename with upgrades and not
> introduce a bazaar metapackage for a release. Or at least for some
> arbitrary timeframe, as that can be more precisely defined.

        As long as I don't find baz replaced by bzr, I'm happy with this.

        manoj
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