Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
> Uhm, Debian's target audience is not Joe User, never has been AFAICT.
> Joe isn't usually capable of determining which MTA, web server, proxy
server, etc., specific implementation is best for them, assuming they
are even aware of the architecture underlying the UI they see... Debian
assumes all of that of its users.
Then You must let them go to Ubuntu, because many simply don't want to
know that either, just use the computer for their daily tasks.
In that case, we can close that "Debian is at least as good as Ubuntu"
dispute immediately, being false. Instead, we can say "Debian is at
least as good as Ubuntu FOR TECHNICAL USERS" safely.
> Why "old" software is commonplace. Slow and lazy with the
packaging... or does it just take time to get all the pieces functioning
well enough to be an easily derivable basis, and one which changes every
six months would be a poor choice for that use.
I'd say neither of that. Just unable to recognize a few pieces of
software that needs to be upgraded more frequently, and (so far) unable
to make that happen. Ideas are coming however, maybe one day we'll see
> The way I see it: distros tailored to specific types of users which
are based on Debian are not making up for Debian's failings, they are
the most natural and may even be the actual intended use of what Debian
Yes, I see it natural too. Debian is doing the great task of gathering
free software and making it work together as-much-as-possible. Making
the universal and useful distribution for everyone might be beyond it's
ability, and there the place for Ubuntu and friends emerges.. Some
Debianists don't like it, however let's celebrate that at least Ubuntu
is making the user-friendly distro that people like.
> - Bruce