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Re: Centralized darcs



#include <hallo.h>
* John Goerzen [Thu, Aug 03 2006, 08:29:33AM]:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:37:10AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > #include <hallo.h>
> > * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 04:12:50PM]:
> > 
> > > Because everyone knows how to use cp and diff, and because I get diffs
> > > sent to the BTS all the time.  It works.  And it has nothing to do with
> > > VCS -- it's just Debian packages.
> > 
> > Bingo. Therefore, your efforts to use the regular process as an argument
> > supporting darcs' patch management are pointless.
> 
> What?  Are you trying to just be a troll here?
> 
> I am saying that:
> 
>  * For the MAINTAINER, a single diff.gz is often not the most
>    convenient.

Really? For me, it sounded like having a single diff.gz is ok for
everyone and patch management should be done in the VCS.

>  * I believe that ANY VCS is a better solution to this than ANY
>    custom patch solution.

Believes are not proofs, sorry. They are hypotheses based on subjective
ground.

> If *I* use Darcs instead of a patching tool, then if Joe Random Hacker
> wants to NMU my package, *HE* doesn't have to learn a thing.  Plus I get
> all the benefits of patch management and history with more features than
> any patching tool.
> 
> If *I* use Darcs, then EVERYONE ELSE can use the regular process.
> 
> If *I* use a patching tool, then EVERYONE ELSE IS FORCED TO ALSO.
> 
> Clear now?

??

It has been clear before. There are just too many null-arguments blowing
up this discussion.

> > > > And if the user has more than one patch which needs to be maintained
> > > > separately, is it still is still trivial FOR HIM? (or her)
> > > 
> > > Who is the user?
> > 
> > A system admin adding 3-5 extra patches to his local package
> > installation?
> 
> How does this bolster your case?  The local sysadmin has the potential
> to need to learn 3-5 patching tools in this case.

One can easily add those modifications. In different atoms (patches).
One can update those atoms with newer versions from 3rd party sources.
Without having to deal with maintainer's VCS or setup a custom one.

Eduard.

-- 
Der Haß ist ein aktives Mißvergnügen, der Neid ein passives, deshalb
darf man sich nicht wundern, wenn der Neid so schnell in Haß übergeht.
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