Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 06:38:57PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> One of them is that Ubuntu developers get paid. That makes a huge
> difference, as they can devote a lot more time each day to their work
> than, say, a student who also needs to work besides his university duties
> to stay afloat, and can only dedicate a few hours on a weekend to Debian.
A majority of Ubuntu developers are also volunteers, and there are in fact
Debian developers who are paid for their efforts, both in whole and in part.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if more people in total were paid to work on
Debian than on Ubuntu, especially given that many developers contribute to
Debian as at least a part of their professional responsibilities.
While Canonical's sponsorship does represent a huge contribution to Ubuntu,
the difference between Debian and Ubuntu is much more than simply funding.
> This is one of the cases where different interests come into play. A lot
> of modern hardware requires binary-only firmware to operate. A
> distribution with a clear end-user focus such as Ubuntu can easily
> strike a deal with hardware manufacturers to get the necessary
> permissions; it may not be allowed to derive a distribution from Ubuntu
> that also includes these drivers as the license on them prohibits
Ubuntu does not obtain special licensing terms for any firmware. All of the
firmware included in Ubuntu is freely redistributable, and in fact, I
believe all of it is available either upstream in Linux or in Debian
> > E. Mr. Hess has a nice supermarket argument but can't see that Debian
> > needs to steal a few things from Ubuntu, ie it goes both ways.
> Not quite. Ubuntu's big advantages are specifically in places where it
> has been adapted to specific use cases; stealing those would lead to the
> exact same problems that I outlined above under "taking suggestions".
Yes, many of the differences between Ubuntu and Debian fall into this
> > Unfortunatly I think you just aren't smart enough to read
> > the writing on the wall that there is a reason Ubuntu has been for a
> > while now such a more popular distro then us.
> Yes, it's called "marketing".
I think you were much closer to the mark above.