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Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On 7/28/06, Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:

> Debian is all about not making assumptions like this.  If you want this
> feature, you are free to install it.

And, while this makes Debian a wonderful choice for all sorts of things,
it means that Debian itself isn't a compelling desktop distribution.
Instead, that's going to be left to derived distributions of one sort or

No, no. Please download the latest testing image[0] and after base
install select "desktop environment", give it a try and you will see that if a
better artwork we're quite good. Btw, there's a chance that the installer will
suggest that task for you. The users are free to unselect it, of course. I think
with the tasksel revival in place, Ubuntu is going in a similar path.

Personally, I have no problem with this. But if Debian is unwilling to
fill these (not terribly niche) requirements itself, it's not reasonable
to complain when people build on Debian in order to provide a more
complete solution for a more narrow use case. It's not possible to
simultaneously believe that Debian's flexibility is what makes it
worthwhile, and that the fact that other projects treat Debian as a
supermarket is a bad thing. One or the other.

Agreed, but please review our current status as pointed out above.

[0] = http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer

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