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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:51:21AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> writes:
> > On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:26:26PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> That would make Debian, at most, a republic, not a democracy.
> > Would you care to elaborate and explain it isn't a democratic republic
> > then?
> Debian's delegate system makes it very strongly on the republican side of
> things, enough so that I think calling it a democracy is misleading.  Yes,

In the sense that in a democracy all decisions are made by vote you're
absolutley right of course.

> in theory we can elect a DPL who can then rescind any delegation and
> appoint someone new, but the levels of indirection involved make that more
> in the style of the original US Senate.  The point that makes it the most
> democratic is the recourse to GR to *overturn* decisions, but most
> decisions in the project are not made by vote and shouldn't be.  Most
> decisions are not even made by elected officials, as we only have one of
> those and most of the job of the DPL is cheerleading, financials,
> legalities and public relations.
> And whether it's a democratic republic or some other form of hybrid mostly
> depends on whether you consider ftp-master to be a delegate position or a
> somewhat independent check, a question that I expect would only get firmly
> resolved under circumstances that none of us really want to see.

Wait a moment, if ftp-master was independant what should we call our structure then?


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