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Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?



On 3/13/06, Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.iki.fi> wrote:
> ma, 2006-03-13 kello 08:57 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst kirjoitti:
> > I don't think it's useful to second-guess what they're doing, so my
> > question to Nathanael: when did you post this question to them directly
> > and what was their answer?
>
> Is there a reason why the question should be made in private?
>
> I do think N.N. formulated the question in a needlessly accusatory tone,
> but I don't think -devel was the wrong place. Transparency and openness
> are good for the project.
>

I agree with you, but i don't think it's just a lack of transparency
and openness, it's just the same old way to not communicate decisions
in a proper way.

If the ftpmasters are going to stop NEW processing for a while with or
without a special criteria, they should inform us through d-d-a or the
DPL if they think it will generate too much noise, like these threads.
If they did that i'm yet to hear about.

I want the archive split and i want etch, don't get me wrong but  at
the same time i see that we're discussing communication and conduct
problems every week, it's clear that we're delaying things here.
Unfortunately, we're going nowhere once again, there's only one side
writing, people in the middle acting like lawyers and the others just
don't talk.

I'm not going to the debconf, but i would like to suggest that the
folks that are listed in the debian's organizational structure page[0]
meet up and organize a bof with others developers interested. I see
that Steve will talk about release etch in time and Enrico about the
debian community guidelines, maybe they've better ideas for this than
me.

You know, the basic idea is ftpmasters, listmasters and others that
are going to Mexico, spend some minutes sitting there, being cool with
each other and hear  the feedback from others DDs and say what they
think about some past and the current issues. Someone take notes and
post the results somewhere.

[0] = http://www.debian.org/intro/organization

-- stratus



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