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Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 07:32:33PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > The only instance where wine is serving a purpose without requiring the
> > > use of non-free code is when you're better off using native Linux
> > > software anyway.
> > TurboCASH is a potential counterexample -- it's a complete, functional,
> > GPLed, Windows-based accounting suite, which hasn't been ported to Linux,
> > and which is non-trivial to port to Linux.
> "...when you're better off using native Linux software anyway". I can
> give you a number of applications, free or otherwise, that will do
> accounting on Linux. 

You can "do accounting" in vi if you want. It's not terribly pleasant,
but it works well for some circumstances. Of the free accounting
programs available, TurboCASH actually looks pretty optimal for a range
of circumstances, notably small businesses. It seems to be one of very
few free programs that's actually likely to handle Australian accounting
requirements reasonably well.

> > Furthermore, it's reportedly better than the accounting packages we
> > have.
> Many non-free software is reportedly better than some of the software in
> Debian. OpenOffice.org is reportedly better than MS Office, for example.
> I tend not to believe third-hand experiences.

Then why bother reading a mailing list at all?

> > I don't know if it actually runs under Wine though.
> What are we talking about, then? You're claiming that it's okay to keep
> wine in main because there's this GPL'd application that you've
> apparently never even tried and which *may* work under wine, while
> there's a driver for ndiswrapper which is "useless" (hah) that
> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net (i.e., the main ndiswrapper website)
> actually links to?
> Are you for real?

I'm sorry, I thought we had a chance at an interesting conversation here.
But if we're at "Are you for real?" and "Because you're wrong." already,
I guess I was mistaken.

Your concerns have been noted and will be taken into due account in my


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