Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

[Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>]

> How would the layout go for documentation packages. Ok, for a
> documentation in language xxxx I take the XX code and generate
> 	old:	texlive-documentation-xxxxx
> 	new:	texlive-XX-doc

A bit of searching suggests the most common patterns are:

   PKG-doc
   PKG-doc-TYPE                 (TYPE is like "html", "ps", "info" etc.)
   PKG-doc-LANG                 (LANG is usually code like "fr")

> But what to do with the texlive-documentation-base, should it become
> 	old:	texlive-documenatation-base
> 	new:	texlive-base-doc

Not sure, but I guess either just "texlive-doc" or "texlive-doc-base".

> For the language stuff: Here is a problem as some languages packages are
> not *one* single language, but several (arabic, cjk, other). So would it
> be the best solution to have
> 	old:	texlive-langXXXXX
> 	new:	texlive-XXXX-lang

Existing usage seems a bit mixed; the main common point seems to be
"-LANG" as a suffix.  Some patterns are:

   PKG-LANG
   PKG-locale-LANG              (this seems the most common)
   PKG-l10n-LANG                (openoffice uses this)
   PKG-i18n-LANG                (kde uses this)

I don't know if there's some technical nuance to the term "locale" which
would make it inappropriate for texlive's usage, but it's the most common
so would seem the best bet generally.

[For stuff like "cjk" and "arabic" I'd just use the same namespace -- it
seems very unlikely they'll ever conflict with a new language code.]

> Renaming some of them in the `obvious' way is in fact misleading: Take
> eg 
> 	old:	texlive-binextra
> and rename it to
> 	new:	texlive-extra-bin
> Then most Debian users would expect a package "texlive-extra" and this
> one would provide only the binaries.

I think "PKG-bin-extra" would be better.

I think debian usage mostly agrees with the original texlive names
except for the details of some common tags, e.g. "doc" instead of
"documentation" and more hyphens.

So how about as a start, just:

   sed -e 's/-documentation/-doc/'              \
       -e 's/-lang\(uages-\)*/-locale-/'        \
       -e 's/bin$/-bin/'                        \
       -e 's/binaries/bin/'                     \
       -e 's/basic-bin/bin/'                    \
       -e 's/-basic/-base/'                     \
       -e 's/\(extra\|recommended\)$/-\1/'      \
       -e s/armenian/hy/ -e s/bulgarian/bg/ -e s/croatian/hr/   \
       -e s/czechslovak/cs-sk/ -e s/danish/da/ -e s/dutch/nl/   \
       -e s/ukenglish/en-gb/ -e s/english/en/ -e s/finnish/fi/  \
       -e s/french/fr/ -e s/german/de/ -e s/greek/el/           \
       -e s/hebrew/he/ -e s/hungarian/hu/ -e s/italian/it/      \
       -e s/japanese/ja/ -e s/korean/ko/ -e s/latin/la/         \
       -e s/mongolian/mn/ -e s/norwegian/no/ -e s/polish/pl/    \
       -e s/portuguese/pt/ -e s/russian/ru/ -e s/spanish/es/    \
       -e s/swedish/sv/ -e s/tibetan/bo/ -e s/ukrainian/uk/     \
       -e s/thai/th/ -e s/vietnamese/vi/

That gives this list:


texlive-bin-source		96M
	texlive-bin
	texlive-bin-extra
	texlive-font-bin
	texlive-htmlxml
	texlive-metapost
	texlive-omega
	texlive-pdfetex
	texlive-psutils
	texlive-ttfutils
	texlive-music
	texlive-locale-indic
	texlive-graphicstools
	texlive-locale-cjk

texlive-doc-source              57M
	texlive-doc-base          
        texlive-doc-bg
        texlive-doc-cs-sk
        texlive-doc-nl
        texlive-doc-en
        texlive-doc-fi
        texlive-doc-fr
        texlive-doc-de
        texlive-doc-el
        texlive-doc-it
        texlive-doc-ja
        texlive-doc-ko
        texlive-doc-mn
        texlive-doc-pl
        texlive-doc-pt
        texlive-doc-ru
        texlive-doc-es
        texlive-doc-th
        texlive-doc-uk

texlive-locale-source           37M
        texlive-locale-african
        texlive-locale-arab
        texlive-locale-hy
        texlive-locale-hr
        texlive-locale-cyrillic
        texlive-locale-cs-sk
        texlive-locale-da
        texlive-locale-nl
        texlive-locale-fi
        texlive-locale-fr
        texlive-locale-de
        texlive-locale-el
        texlive-locale-he
        texlive-locale-hu
        texlive-locale-it
        texlive-locale-la
        texlive-locale-manju
        texlive-locale-mn
        texlive-locale-no
        texlive-locale-other
        texlive-locale-pl
        texlive-locale-pt
        texlive-locale-es
        texlive-locale-sv
        texlive-locale-bo
        texlive-locale-en-gb
        texlive-locale-vi

texlive-base-source		78M
        texlive-base
        texlive-context
        texlive-generic-recommended
        texlive-latex
        texlive-latex-recommended
        texlive-fonts-recommended
        texlive-pictures

texlive-extra-source		172M
        texlive-bibtex-extra
        texlive-formats-extra
        texlive-generic-extra
        texlive-math-extra
        texlive-plain-extra
        texlive-latex-extra
        texlive-latex3
        texlive-fonts-extra
        texlive-chemistry
        texlive-games
        texlive-pstricks
        texlive-publishers


-Miles
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