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Re: Packages file missing from unstable archive

Ian Bruce wrote:
> As explained, I wish to use rsync (or preferably, zsync) to update the
> local packages list; repeatedly downloading the 3.6MB "Packages.gz" file
> over a 56kb/s link is highly undesirable. I am unable to understand why
> this ambition is considered to be unreasonable.

Is there some reason you're ignoring the parts of this thread where the
diff stuff is explained?

This is an apt-get update, using that on dialup. 28.8 or so, my line sucks.
I haven't updated for a couple of days.

joey@dragon:~>sudo apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Translation-en
Get:2 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Translation-en
Get:3 http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release
Ign http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Translation-en
Get:4 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental Release [21.6kB]
Get:5 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages/DiffIndex [1760B]
Get:6 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex [1609B]
Get:7 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex [919B]
Get:8 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Sources/DiffIndex [1747B]
Get:9 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/contrib Sources/DiffIndex [1609B]
Get:10 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/non-free Sources/DiffIndex [919B]
Ign http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:11 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [16.9kB]
Get:12 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [16.9kB]
Get:13 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [16.9kB]
Get:14 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [189B]
Get:15 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [189B]
Get:16 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [326B]
Get:17 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [326B]
Get:18 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [9562B]
Hit http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Release
Get:19 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [189B]
Get:20 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [326B]
Get:21 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [9562B]
Get:22 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [9562B]
Get:23 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [31B]
Get:24 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [31B]
Get:25 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [31B]
Get:26 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [255B]
Get:27 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [255B]
Get:28 2005-10-25-1310.14.pdiff [255B]
Ign http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
Get:29 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [13.0kB]
Ign http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Packages/DiffIndex
Get:30 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [13.0kB]
Get:31 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [13.0kB]
Get:32 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [240B]
Get:33 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [240B]
Ign http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Packages
Get:34 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [7942B]
Get:35 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [240B]
Get:36 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [7942B]
Get:37 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [7942B]
Hit http://uqm.debian.net unstable/ Packages
Get:38 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [260B]
Get:39 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [260B]
Get:40 2005-10-26-1312.16.pdiff [260B]
Get:41 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages [214kB]
Fetched 42.1MB in 2m4s (338kB/s)
        ^^^^^     ^^^^

If experimental had these diff files too, I could shave another 20
seconds or so off, but as it is, 2 minute Packages updates over dialup
is faster than things have been for at least ten years.

If you go back and read several of the threads about different
ways to speed up Packages file downloads, most of their volume is people
standing around bikeshedding, promoting their favorite pet ideas. The
fact that some people went off and produced a working solution despite
that wins them my utmost respect. Ignoring what they've done and
repeating the same tired arguments is lame.

(And yes, we still need a solution to speed up the actual deb file

see shy jo

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