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Re: changing default ping (was Re: what to do with iputils (ping, etc)

On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:33:47AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > > > Making one of the portable versions the default ping for Debian seems like the 
> > > > > right thing to do.
> > > > Please explain why.
> > > Consistancy.
> > Losing important features to be consistent with unreleased toys does not
> > looks like a good trade off.
> How are you 'losing' those important features? If you want them, install 
> iputils-*. Mr. Nerode didn't suggest removing the package.

How are you "gaining" consistency by changing the default ping? If
you want it, install boring-ping. That formula of argument doesn't get
anyone anywhere.

Going too far on the "consistency" side of things makes working on
alternative OSes pointless: if Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd do
the exact same thing, why bother putting in the effort to have both?
Would you say that "tar" shouldn't have special options on the Hurd for
dealing with dereferencing translators, say, even if someone wrote
such a feature? [0]

Consistency across archictectures within the one kernel certainly makes
sense; but what's the point of having two 10GB sets of packages that do
the exact same thing on the exact same hardware?

That doesn't make sense to me. The default install should be what's most
likely to be most useful for the most users. If having an option
available will be useful on Linux, but not on the Hurd, it should be
available on Linux, and not on the Hurd.


[0] http://www.kerneltraffic.org/debian-hurd/dh20010918_108.html#4

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