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Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:48:19AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> So, I don't feel I can accept the agreement offered by the Mozilla
> Foundation, because of my objections to it and because I don't feel
> empowered to make an agreement like this on behalf of Debian. 
> If the DPL does not step forward to make some sort of agreement, what
> will I do? Renaming seems to be a very unpopular option. So I believe
> my best option is to ignore the trademark policy altogether and have
> the Mozilla Foundation tell us when they want us to stop using their
> marks.

I think that would be the worst thing to do. The problem has been
brought up; Debian does not usually ignore such things. Additionally,
accepting the deal does not require much of us -- I think if you
'ignore' the policy, what you'd be doing in practice is to accept the

You have to make a decision. Many people have told you that they don't
think it's a problem WRT the DFSG to accept this deal, including some
d-legal participants. You disagree, which is your right; but then you
have to accept the consequences and live with them, not try to weasel
out of them by attempting to 'ignore' the trademark policy (which you
can't do anyway).

In any case, since you're the maintainer of the package, the decision is
ultimately yours -- see the Debian Constitution, §3.1, point 1. In other
words, you /are/ empowered to accept or reject this deal; and although I
would prefer that you accept it (since I think it's a reasonable one and
one not in conflict with the DFSG), I would urge you to not keep the
status quo.

The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the
pavement is precisely one bananosecond

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