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Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

Eric Dorland wrote:
Now, the Mozilla Foundation is willing to give us permission to use
the marks, but only to Debian specifically. To me, this feels like a
violation (at least in spirit) of DFSG #8.

"Our priorities are our users and free software"

Does having the package actually be called "firefox" or "thunderbird" make life easier and better for users? I think so. Does the opposite make it worse? I think so.

Does calling it "firefox" or "thunderbird" hurt "free software"? It doesn't hurt us -- we're already doing it, it doesn't hurt upstream -- they're happy for us to do it, it doesn't hurt our users as above. Does it hurt Debian derivatives? Depends on the permission -- it seems hard to give Debian permission but not give random people permission to redistribute Debian's deb, which is all most distributors do.

Does changing the name hurt "free software"? It hurts us, by taking away time from other things, it hurts upstream by decreasing their name recognition and providing a bunch of FAQs of the form "what's wrong with firefox that Debian doesn't distribute it?". Depending on how much time it takes us to do it right, it might hurt our derivatives even more, by introducing new RC bugs and destabilising the release, and providing a base system that users are less happy with ("Why doesn't it come with firefox?").

YMMV, of course.


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