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Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:00:54PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:19:03PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > Besides that, I didn't see anyone from Ubuntu ever make a general
> > announcement to Debian developers about who they should contact if they
> > have concerns about things like this
> I sent several of the early Ubuntu announcements to debian-devel, so that
> everyone knew what was happening and would have a point of contact if they
> had any concerns (me).

Matt, I'm not looking to pick a fight with you here.  It feels a bit
like you're taking this personally, and I don't think you need to.

You just have to keep in mind that even though all of *you* know what's
going on at Ubuntu, most of *us* don't.  I've tried to keep on top of
this (as much as I can), but I sure didn't know you were supposed to be
the main point of contact.  Maybe I missed something obvious... but I
did miss it.  Others appear to have missed it as well.

> There is also a "Feedback" hyperlink at the bottom of every page on
> www.ubuntu.com (and given the subject of this thread, it is well known that
> the Launchpad and Ubuntu projects are related).

Well, ok, but that doesn't necessarily mean that whoever reads
<info@ubuntulinux.org> cares about this particular problem or has any
control over the Launchpad.  You presumably know who reads the mail sent
to that address; I don't.  My first guess was that it was a marketing
contact address, not an address used to get in contact with technical

> I have asked the developers to correct this.  As you can see by clicking
> through many of the links, the site is not yet complete.

Well, that's good to know - but it was not obvious to me that the site
wasn't complete yet (not that I really care one way or the other).

No worries,


Kenneth J. Pronovici <pronovic@debian.org>

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