Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 09:27:25AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Ingo Juergensmann said:
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:47:58PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> >
> > > Moreover, the criterias given in your mail are just so oriented
> > > towards/against some architectures, that it's a bad joke (I was going
> > > to write "disgusting", really).
> >
> > It's a total change of direction: from "as long as there are people who
> > care, we will release those arch" to "no matter if there are people who
> > care, we just release mainstream archs". :-(
>
> No, I thought the proposal stated quite clearly, if there are users and
> there are porters, a given arch is able to be included. All that means
> is that those interested will actually have to do some of the work to
> support things like security and the kernel. I know many of you already
That is a joke. Do you really think that the porters don't care about the
kernel ? I would really like that you don't drag the kernel-team in these
petty claims, as i don't think that this is a problem kernel-wise. For
example the first to go for the recent 2.6.11 kernels that are in the work
where powerpc and sparc, and now s390 :
$ ls -d */*11*
powerpc/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.11-2.6.11 source/kernel-source-2.6.11-2.6.11
s390/kernel-image-2.6.11-s390 sparc/kernel-image-2.6.11-sparc-2.6.11
(in the subversion repo). Apart from powerpc, where i did the job, no other
tier-1 arch is included here, and i had trouble getting the ia64 guys to even
look at it (which they have done now). This doesn't include arches who are not
at 2.6 kernels yet, but i rather believe that they would be rather responsive
about this kind of thing too, at least some of them.
> do quite good work as porters, and I mean no offense. But I can see
> quite clearly that it would be difficult for the security team or other
> groups to keep up with things growing the way they are.
So, if there is too much work for a small group, then open it out. But it is
not by insulting the people you need the help from that things will get
forward.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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