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Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:12:48AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> > BTW, how much of the human intervention needed for buildd signing
> > plays in the delays you see, and did you discuss the possibiliity of
> > a fully autobuilder setup, like ubuntu does and i advocated years
> > ago ?
> I can't answer for Steve, but it seems to me that signing isn't the
> problem.  There is not a big delay in getting packages signed; the
> delay is much more frequently getting them actually built.

Well, i will disagree. It is only needed for the signer to go out to
vacations, and uploads break for a couple of days or weeks, which immediately
break builds of packages dependent on said packages, and cause delay in the
build queue, especially on slower arches. This is not theoretical, it happened
to me already in the past.

> Where human delay did come into play was in getting the xfree86 mess
> cleaned; in theory it should have taken one or two days, but in
> practice it took much longer.

Why not fully eliminate the human factor ? Ubuntu does automated build from
source only uploads, the package sources are built and signed by a developer,
autobuilt on all arches, and i don't believe they are individually signed
after that.


Sven Luther

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