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Re: Linux Core Consortium

On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 10:57 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> On Friday 10 December 2004 06.15, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > John Goerzen dijo [Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 09:40:51PM -0600]:
> > > we could participate in this organization even if we didn't take
> > > their packages?  That is, perhaps we could influence the direction to
> > > a more useful one?
> > Then we would be non-participants, we would be just bitchers
> No, I don't think so.  I think what Bruce and Ian are aiming at is
>  - Debian can get influence in LCC, so
>  - some things LCC does might actually make sense, so Debian does these 
> things in the way LCC does.
>  - other things will be done in LCC-space, that will not make sense in 
> Debian, so Debian can still do it in its own way.
> What is the benefit? The divergence between LCC and Debian will still be 
> smaller than when Debian just stays outside. So
>  - vendors may offer compatibility to LCC with manageable overhead (Ubuntu, 
> perhaps?)
>  - porting LCC applications to Debian is limited to those small areas where 
> divergence between LCC and Debian diverge.
> I think about things like hardware detection and autoconfiguration, where 
> there's a lot development right now, and there are a lot of different 
> solutions.  In many cases, the various solutions are more or less 
> equivalent and things are done differently mainly because of personal taste 
> of whoever does the implementation.  Having a voice in how LCC does these 
> things and doing it the same way in Debian, in these cases, would be a Very 
> Good Idea(tm), I feel.

Well said. Even if Debian ends up not adopting the LCC core,
Debian participation would 1. help make the LCC core, community,
and processes better and thus more likely to achieve the
desired result; and 2. help make the eventual differences between
the LCC core and the Debian core smaller, which at least eases
the compatibility problem even if it can't be eliminated entirely.

In short, it's not an all-or-nothing thing.

Ian Murdock
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"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in
the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was
vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may
act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible." -T.E. Lawrence

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