On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:04:40PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:53:27AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:27, Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> wrote: > > > Please stop using this brain-dead blacklist. > > > > What is wrong with it? End-user machines should not send email directly, they > > should use the mail server from their ISP. > > Amen, brother. I reject this exhortation utterly. I'm not going to change my practices for your sake, so if you ever need a private reply from me regarding something, you'll just have to cope with the consequences. I respect the right of individuals to /dev/null my mails for any reason they choose, be it the content, the originating IP address, or what-have-you. But I will not aid you in your endeavor to pretend these blacklists cause no collateral damage by trashing non-spam mails addressed to third parties who have no control over their (ISP's) mail server's configuration. The attitude of reckless blacklisters like yourself reminds me of the old saw about how to be a corrupt scientist: "If the data don't fit the curve, fake it." I will not be pushed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. And I most certainly will not voluntarily hand over my outbound emails to the tender mercies of my monopolistic ISP's mail hub. If they want to collate and scan my mails, they'll just have to do it the good old-fashioned underhanded way, which is sure to be blessed soon by the Fascist laws of my contry if it hasn't been already. The least they can do in the process is drop the pretense and intercept my outbound mails entirely, retransmitting them from one of your beloved non-blacklisted bureaucratic addresses. Until that day, I will maintain responsibility for my own SMTP transactions. -- G. Branden Robinson | Judging developers by the number of Debian GNU/Linux | changes they make is like judging a branden@debian.org | legislature by the number of laws http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | it passes. -- Karl Fogel
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