[Adding -boot and -x to CC list. Sorry for the crossposting. Perhaps this can move away from -devel.] On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:37:04AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > (Joeyh, Kostas, Branden keyboard issues with X when using non-US > keyboard...see -devel and bugs 238778 239827 242321 242605) > > > Confuse? This renders the system almost unusable until you fix it by > > hand. When we have an installer which has become quite usable by non- > > techies, such a bug is a giant leap backwards. > > Well, don't try convincing me...rather convince the X team to raise > the priority of the keyboard question (that's a possibility)... [...] > Plans for synchronizing keyboard settings for X and console are > post-sarge...so only workarounds are possible for sarge: > > -localization-config installed for all non-US installs > -X keyboard config question priority raised It wouldn't just need its priority raised; it needs to attempt to calculate a reasonable default based on the value of the debian-installer/keymap debconf template. Theroetically, if that template has a defined answer and the mapping logic is good enough, the priority of the XKB layout question could remain at medium ("items which have a reasonable default"). > BTW, I'm not completely sure this is a backward leap : I don't > remember whether a scratch woody install with X in frnech with a > french keyboard ends up with a french X keyboard.... It doesn't. It defaults to "us" all the time. > (the debconf priority is not a drastic change...but that would mean a > new upload of the X packages which is certainly not trivial) Eh, well, we've been having to upload it anyway for other reasons. > A few translators have raised this problem for a while but we probably > didn't make enough noise about it. Most are also culprit because using > US keyboard : using local keyboard is not geeky enough...:-) (french > ppl are very good at this) This issue is on the TODO list for the debconf-overhaul branch in XSF XFree86 SVN[1], so I'm going to be working on it soon. I still don't know how challenging the mapping from d-i/keymap values to XKB configuration is going to be. If I feel myself getting bogged down, I might do this: * If the answer to d-i/keymap is whatever the value for a typical US PC keyboard is, leave the question priority at medium. * Otherwise, kick the priority up to high. It makes the install more interactive, which people don't like, but only for people'd who likely be even more annoyed by a wrong keymap the first time they start X. Thoughts? [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=238778 -- G. Branden Robinson | You are not angry with people when Debian GNU/Linux | you laugh at them. Humor teaches branden@debian.org | them tolerance. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- W. Somerset Maugham
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