Re: Freeswan in Debian, or: Why I am such a bad maintainer
- To: Rene Mayrhofer <rene.mayrhofer@gibraltar.at>
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- Subject: Re: Freeswan in Debian, or: Why I am such a bad maintainer
- From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:58:18 +0200
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:39:38PM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
> Marc Haber wrote:
> >Go ahead. I hope that openswan sucks less than freeswan and the
> >native 2.6 stuff.
> It does. I've tried :)
>From what I've seen, it is still at war with the kernel's routing
machinery, but at least it allows me to rename my interfaces.
> >May I suggest creating a pkg-openswan project on alioth, along with a
> >-devel mailing list?
> The good thing is: it actually shouldn't be necessary. Most of the
> Debian packaging is already included in upstream 2.1.4, so I will mostly
> do compiles, uploads, and send patches their way whenever I fix bugs in
> or enhance the Debian packaging stuff. There is already a discussion
> about a Debian IPSec mailing list going on.
In my experience, a -devel mailing list is great for discussions like
this (which really should be on freeswan-devel).
For the case of Debian-ipsec, I won't count on it. When I requested a
debian-exim4 list, I didn't even receive an answer for months. My
recommendation: If you need a mailing list concerned with a package,
make one yourself, on alioth.
exim4 is also a good example that you don't create an external mailing
list with the intention of moving it to Debian infrastructure at some
later time. Users won't acceppt it.
Greetings
Marc
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