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Re: Amendment to the Constitution: Add a new foundation document

On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:15:56PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> was heard to say:
> On Sun, 2 May 2004 14:59:11 -0400, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> said: 
> >> Meeting our commitments as described in the Social Contact is an
> >> ongoing process. Since we have recently changed these commitments,
> >> we need an interval of time before we can approach compliance.
> >   This last sentence shouldn't be in the present tense, since it
> > won't always be true :)
> >   I suggest:
> >   When we change these commitments, there will be an interval of
> > time before we can approach compliance.
> 	Umm. 
>  Whenever we change these commitments, we may need an interval of
>  time before we can approach compliance.

  Yes, that wording is better.

> >> There is precedent for a gap between ratifying a change to the
> >> foundation documents of the Project and implementing dictates of
> >> that document; when the Project first accepted the Social Contract
> >> and the Debian Free Software Guidelines, there was an interval
> >> before we came into compliance with those then-new documents.
> >   s/those/these/, maybe.  (honestly, I don't know why I feel that
> >   should change)
> 	Umm, no. This is a specific precedent setting example,
>  so those is correct here, I think.


> >> We affirm that whenever a change to the Social Contract, or the
> >> Constitution, takes place, the activities required to provide
> >> ongoing and proactive support for the Debian user community shall
> >> continue. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to,
> >> providing security updates for previously-released versions of
> >> Debian, providing point-release updates to previously-released
> >> versions of Debian, preparing for the next (compliant) release of
> >> Debian, actually releasing the current non-compliant version of
> >> Debian if such a release is imminent (as well as any further
> >> updates to that version of Debian), as well as providing all the
> >> Project's infrastructure such as bug-tracking and mailing lists.
> >   Suggest "and" before the "actually" (comma-separated lists usually
> > say "A, B, C, and D").  I guess it isn't there because of "as well
> > as", but I'd put it there anyway.
> 	Doesn't sound right to me when I speak it aloud. I would like
>  some other opinions on this as well.

  I like Thomas' suggestion: "version of Debian), and providing all the...".


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