On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 05:22, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 10:22:50AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 12:31:15AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > Usually it refers to changes that clarify the meaning without changing > > > that meaning. I'd be interested in hearing your definition, since you > > > seconded the GR. > > Yes, this is exactly my point of view, too. And I think > > this is what the GR did. But somehow, strangely, the > > release manager thinks that the meaning did change. > > > > > I'm stunned that this GR passed. ... > > You should not be. Debian is about freedom, so we > > should struggle to not distribute non-free items. > > No, nor do I propose that we continue to do so indefinitely. > > Do you believe that the GR has had no effect other than editorial? > Or simply that the change is a good thing anyway? > > I was stunned because I didn't think this proposal was ready for a vote. > It needed more development and discussion. It was proposed on > debian-devel that the GR be discussed and dissected item by item, but > that never occurred - instead we went straight to a vote. For those of us on -legal, who have been discussing this (often against near-silly levels of opposition) for upwards of 4 years now, this did not go "straight to a vote". For me, it was a reassurance that things were finally moving forward towards getting non-free stuff out of main, and should have been done about a year earlier than it was (except for the fact that the two other GRs relating to the SC needed to pass first). -- Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>
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