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Re: more evil firmwares found

On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 03:18:14AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > programs.  If DFSG meant that the source code for "every single bit"
> > in Debian needs to be made available, then it should have made that
> > statement, rather than adopting the much more sensible approach of
> > requiring source for each "program" to be made available.
> 	It did indeed mena that, as Bruce has already clarified.

I read the clarification, and nowhere do I see him mention that the
source code for every bit of Debian must be made available.  He talks
about the rights, presumably of free modification and redistribution,
that should apply to all of Debian.  He was not asked about the
distinction between "Software" (in the global Debian scope) and
"program" (in the scope of DFSG#2), nor did he mention anything that
might clear up the questions surrounding that distinction.

> 	The DFSG, in my opinion, shouyld apply to all software, as it
>  was clearly meant to when it was discussed and written.

Well, I'm sorry that I wasn't around when dinosaurs ruled the earth and
the Social Contract was forged in steel from the earth's core.  What we
have is actions being taken on a DFSG basis, which really affect users,
that actually have no basis in the DFSG, unless one takes an extremely
liberal reading of it.

> 	I see we have to go through another GR to clean up the DFSG as
>  well. 

I hope we do.  Post-sarge, aber natürlich.

Ryan Underwood, <nemesis@icequake.net>

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