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Re: more evil firmwares found

On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 08:31:57PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> > It does because we keep users away from installing Debian on their
> > systems. We punish them for having hardware for which no free driver is
> > available. And that is completely bogus.
> Then I assume you believe that the NVIDIA drivers should be in main? 
> Otherwise, you're being inconsistent.

Most argue wrt host cpu vs device run code. There is no inconsistency in
wanting kernel drivers that have gpl'd blobs to be included in Debian but
want nvidia stuff to stay out of Debian. Nvidia in no way is considered
to be even remotely free, if I remember correctly the license for it used
to exclude distribution at all. Also in the nvidia case there is already
a good enough 2D driver. There is no need to have either the free driver
or the non-free driver during regular installation though. In fact in
the Nvidia case its arguable that their driver is so buggy on a regular
basis it would be bad for Debian's users to install it unless they need
3D support over stability.

On the blobs under the gpl issue being non-free, its because they are
considered not to be the preferred form of source. If the blobs are
considered non-free we have no license to distribute the work at all, do
we? Also any undocumented code is not the preferred form of code so
should also be removed from the archive. The preferred form of code is
code that can be easily understood and modified, undocumented code
does not fit this definition either...


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