on Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:32:14PM +1000, Craig Sanders (cas@taz.net.au) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 04:17:22AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > On your own system, for your own use, sure. For general use? Nope -- > > yes, definitely for general use. it's just as effective for general use as it > is for my personal use - in fact, if more people did the kind of stuff that i > do then there wouldn't be a spam problem, because the spammers would just give > up and go home. > > > > Debian could never ship that. > > i'm not asking for debian to ship it. i gave some stats on spam > blocking on my system, that's all. > > i don't even think it can be shipped. spam-blocking is a hands-on > process, just like systems administration....sure, you can write tools > to automate parts of it, but the job needs someone who understands the > problem and knows what they are doing to look after it. There are some sane defaults -- SA cutting at 8-10 -- which _could_ be effectively shipped, as well as clamav. Just these two tweaks as a standard MTA config would cut a large amount of spam. Yes, site-specific tweaks could be made to tighten the setup. But a working, effective, low false-positive system could be shipped turnkey. > > Counting lines w/ 'RBL' on 'em I got 6016 messages. I added your spam > > and non-spam totals (or what appeared to be these) to get 55,117. > > i already gave the total number of message delivery attempts, 29605. > you basically doubled it when you added in the rejected attempts > again. What I looked at was this line: spam:non-spam (25512/29605) 86.17% ...which if read as presented says you received 25,515 spam messages, and 29,605 non-spam messages, or a total of 55,117 messages. If you meant something different, you should have written something different, such as "spam/total". > > several thousand messages on the weight of originating IP block alone. > > yes. that's because IT WORKS. > > i'm not interested in accepting mail from known open relays or open > proxies or from dynamic IP pools. In the latter case, you'll be excluding the personal mail I just sent you from my system, which happens to use a dynamic IP assignment for its mailserver. Never issued spam. Totally clean configuration. But you're going to blackhole it. Nice. > i'm also not interested in receiving mail from certain counties > (china, korea, brazil, and others). This doesn't deserve response. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Use a personal CSS stylesheet to promote Web usability: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Download/UserContent.css http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Download/test-css.html
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