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Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)



On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:17:03AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort
> > > > of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of the
> > > > thread.
> > > 
> > > That's another opinion expressed as a generalization.  I think you 
> > > better quit while you're ahead.
> > 
> > It seemed inductively valid, but easy enough to disprove.  Anyone care
> > to provide a counter-example?  Do any non-Christians wish to express
> > personal discomfort or offense with the names I proposed?
> 
> Muslims and Jews also believe in demons.
> Witches believe in demons.
> African nature-religionists also believe in demons.

Are you one of these, and complaining? You fail to say.

Most of the Wicca practitioners I know (and those that I've lived with and
been involved with) don't particularly believe in demons, per se; they
do believe in spirits, and some of those spirits are not what one would
necessarily call benevolent.

Satanists certainly believe in demons, but they believe in the Christian
mythology of them, and thus, are in the same group (and are, of course,
unlikely to disapprove, though they might advocate a specific favorite...)

The context of "African nature-religionists" is too broad to discuss in
detail, but most of the various forms of Animism do have the concept
of malign spirits. How they deal with them, and their views of them in
general, seem to vary widely.

> Face it dude, you're hatred and unfairness towards one specific group of 
> people is shining through.  I don't think this project is so enlightened 
> after all.

Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of
"parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he'd be proud
of it. But you'll see for yourself, soon enough.
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Joel Baker <fenton@debian.org>                                        ,''`.
Debian GNU/NetBSD(i386) porter                                       : :' :
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