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Re: possible compromise for ITP: linux?

Eike Sauer <eikes@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes:

> Andrew Suffield schrieb:
> > He doesn't need to, he can be slapped down.
> "Keine Gewalt!" ("No violence!")
> > We don't ignore minor issues just because there are major ones.
> So let's hope Robert can cope with minor issues 
> and only talk about the big ones for now.
> >  - this packages adds nothing, and would occupy a fair chunk of space
> >    in the archive. 
> I don't know how short Debian is of space.
> How large would Robert's packages be?
> There already are several packages with complete 
> kernel sources which take as much place as his package 
> would, right?
> So is this really too large to let him test his idea?

Lets look at sid and just sources:

mrvn@dual:/mnt/debian/pool/main% find -type f -name "*kernel*gz" | xargs du -h --total | grep total
281M    total

mrvn@dual:/mnt/debian/pool/main% find -type f -name "*kernel*gz" | xargs du -m | sort -nr | head
40      ./k/kernel-source-2.6.0-test9/kernel-source-2.6.0-test9_2.6.0-test9.orig.tar.gz
35      ./k/kernel-source-2.4.22/kernel-source-2.4.22_2.4.22.orig.tar.gz
34      ./k/kernel-source-2.4.21/kernel-source-2.4.21_2.4.21.orig.tar.gz
33      ./k/kernel-source-2.4.20/kernel-source-2.4.20_2.4.20.orig.tar.gz
32      ./k/kernel-image-2.4.19-hppa/kernel-image-2.4.19-hppa_22.2.tar.gz
31      ./k/kernel-source-2.4.19/kernel-source-2.4.19_2.4.19.orig.tar.gz
27      ./k/kernel-image-2.4.19-ia64/kernel-image-2.4.19-ia64_020821.2.tar.gz
19      ./k/kernel-source-2.2.25/kernel-source-2.2.25_2.2.25.orig.tar.gz
5       ./m/mindi-kernel/mindi-kernel_1.0.orig.tar.gz
5       ./l/linux-kernel-headers/linux-kernel-headers_2.5.999-test7-bk.orig.tar.gz

As you can see (apart from hppa and ia64, what are you guys doing
there?) there is only one kernel source for each version.

All the kernel-image packages build-depend on the one kernel source
package and various kernel patch packages and are only a few K big

-rw-rw-r--    1 mrvn     mrvn          673 Jun 24 23:47 kernel-image-2.4.20-amiga_2.4.20-5.dsc
-rw-rw-r--    1 mrvn     mrvn         4.8K Jun 24 23:47 kernel-image-2.4.20-amiga_2.4.20-5.tar.gz

There is no reason to duplicate the kernel source even if the images
are to be produced differently.

> >  - this package cannot be safely upgraded (without forcing a reboot).
> > The latter prohibits it from being in a Debian release. 

The same can be said for the current images.

> So it doesn't stop it from entering experimental.
> But I'm not sure if a package is worth a try if
> it cannot possibly make it in a release.
> Ciao,
>                 Eike

Duplicating the vanilla source in the archive is a very bad
idea. Thats an extra 40 MB for every 2.6 kernel to be.


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