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Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:09:16PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <ccheney@cheney.cx> was heard to say:
> > I also don't think it is a particularly good idea for aptitude to
> > default to installing suggests since it will likely bloat systems quite
> > a bit installing various things such as bash-doc, gpart, parted, etc.
>   aptitude doesn't depend on any of those.  Do you mean when installing
> other packages?  If too much stuff is being pulled in from Recommends,
> the package maintainers are using Recommends incorrectly.  I haven't
> found this to be a problem in practice.

I meant since aptitude defaults to installing suggests by default, there
are packages in standard and above that suggests many things that a
normal user would not really care to have installed. I just installed
aptitude on my system today to see how it works now (I hadn't looked it
in several months) and noticed all the options under Options->Dependency
Handling all the options were X'd which means selected right? I can't
paste it here since aptitude seems to have mouse support so copy/paste
doesn't work.

> > Also, it will automatically install packages in non-free (when user has
> > non-free listed) since packages in main are allowed to suggest non-free.
>   aptitude installs Recommendations by default because this is what
> Recommandations mean.  It does not install Suggestions because
> Suggestions are not meant to be installed by default.  If you are
> installing packages from contrib (which can Recommend and even Depend on
> stuff in non-free), you should expect to get non-free stuff on your system.

As stated above aptitude does apparently now default to

'[X] Install Suggested packages automatically'

as well. As I did not turn it on myself and I even removed ~/.aptitude
several times to verify it was still enabled.


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