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Re: IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:32:14 +1000
Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 04:17:22AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > On your own system, for your own use, sure.  For general use?  Nope --
> yes, definitely for general use.  it's just as effective for general use as
> it is for my personal use - in fact, if more people did the kind of stuff
> that i do then there wouldn't be a spam problem, because the spammers would
> just give up and go home.

    Wow, makes you wonder how the Taiwanese would send email to each other!

> doing stuff like this is what it takes to have a (mostly) spam-free mailbox.
> nothing else works.

    SA works.  Your mistake is that you presume that if it touches SA it
equals being accepted.
> if anything, they complained when i switched from using a lot of body/header
> checks rules to using SA instead - they didn't like the fact that spam which
> used to get blocked was now being identified & tagged by SA and delivered
> into their mailbox instead (it was necessary though, the body checks rules
> were finding too many false positives because they are effectively a
> "one-strike, you're out" system rather than a cumulative scoring system). 

    That's why you run SA at SMTP and accept reject on that.  Anything over 8
here is rejected.  At that scoring I get 2-3 spam a day which is tagged and
filtered.  You said spam prevention was a hands-on process, might I suggest
you do yourself, and your supposed clients, a favor and learn how to use the
tools available to their fullest extent.

> > Running SA on modest HW with networking rules disabled can filter 20-40
> > messages/hr according to Dan Quinlan (SA developer, personal
> > conversation).
> huh?  20-40 messages per hour is nothing....a barely noticable load on even
> the crappiest & oldest hardware.
> a modest system should be able to handle many thousands of messages per
> hour.

    Then may I ask why you brought up the whole issue of wanting to prevent
mail hitting SA since it would *hand, staple, forehead* "overload my poor
ancient hardware to the point of uselessness."  Make up your mind.

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