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Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!

Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <luca@debian.org> writes:

> On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:47:15PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote:
>> If your changelog merely says "New upstream version, closes: #123 #456",
>> it's no help whatsoever, and I will (rightly) think that you suck.
> This is debian-devel: as soon as one declares he stops reading a thread,
> beasts came out and offends by praying on the tail of a discussion.
> You discriminate and offend people only by reading a list of changes, and i
> should be the one who suks (supposing i'm not right)?
>> FFS, it's a *change*log -- so log the effing changes in it.
> The contraddiction of all this tread, is that: if i make a change to a package
> i've to list my change in the package changelog (Matt Zimmerman, no one ever
> objected this). If i build a new upstream, i've to list each change in
> the upstream changelog that let me declare a bug as closed; 

The bug was most likely fixed upstream because you informed them about
the bug.  It's even possible you sent upstream a patch to fix the bug (I
know I've done this several times).  So, you either know for yourself or
have been told by upstream how the bug was fixed.  What is so fucking
hard about describing this in the changelog?

If you're not going to describe upstream fixes in the changelog, then
don't close the bug in the changelog.  The changelog is for describing
changes, not listing meaningless numbers.  Close it by hand with a note
saying it's fixed in upstream version x.y.z.

> change that does not refer to the Debian package (but to the original
> upstream), and that i did not applied as part of my package working
> (because it was applied from the upstream).

Uhh, your packages include the upstream source, and therefore the
upstream source is "part of your package working".

> To demostrate how much this issue is stupid, i'll make any one here
> happy by including the entire upstream changelog in
> changelog.Debian.gz, next time i'll build a new upstream.

You're quickly entering Matt Ryan territory.

Poems... always a sign of pretentious inner turmoil.

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