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Re: Debian conference in the US?

On Sun, 25 May 2003 02:24, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >>Well, didn't work that way last time...
> >
> > They got their second choice.
> I never chose Little Napolean and he wasn't on my alternate list either.

Something between 49% and 50% of US voters wanted the Shrub as president.

>   Please stop assuming everyone in a given country actually agrees with
> what their government has done or is doing.  This is the most

I don't assume that everyone agrees, just the 49.X% that voted for him.

> distressing aspect of this thread:  Debian is (supposed to be) a group
> of intelligent, like-minded individuals whose individual nationality or
> origin is largely irrelevent.  There should be only 2 requirements for a
> conference:  someone is willing to sponsor it, and enough people are
> willing to come to make it worthwhile.

Which is what I have said, repeatedly.

> This idea that conference
> locations need to be vetted based on the politics of the host country is
> dangerous and stupid.  What Debian is about has nothing to do with
> individual nations or their politics.  We should be better than this.

Be glad that I never suggested that the conference be held outside the US for 
this reason.

Someone asked why people would want to decline an opportunity to visit the US. 
I answered the question.  A bunch of USians started jumping up and down and 
the thread has continued ever since.

The most amusing thing was that no USian even bothered to ask me whether I am 
implementing such a boycot myself, they just made their assumptions and 
jumped into the flame-war.

My purchases of US products have not changed of recent times, they only things 
from the US that I want are made by Intel, AMD, IBM, and Ford.  Three of 
those companies have no viable non-US competition.

For avoiding entering the US there are better reasons such as the following:

http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/   My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages
http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/  Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark
http://www.coker.com.au/postal/    Postal SMTP/POP benchmark
http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/  My home page

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