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Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 01:02:15PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> Of course as you already know emacs includes so many thing unrelated to
> editing that anyone using it has already decided they don't mind the
> bloat.  *OT* Really is there any argument that a psychoanalysis program
> in an editor is not bloat?

Yes. It's the same as the argument that "a psychoanalysis program in
an editor" is not a gerbil, nameably that there's no apparent

From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02) [foldoc]:

  software bloat
     <jargon, abuse> The result of adding new features to a program
     or system to the point where the benefit of the new features
     is outweighed by the extra resources consumed ({RAM}, disk
     space or performance) and complexity of use.  Software bloat
     is an instance of Parkinson's Law: resource requirements
     expand to consume the resources available.  Causes of software
     bloat include {second-system effect} and {creeping
     featuritis}.  Commonly cited examples include Unix's "{ls}(1)"
     command, the {X Window System}, {BSD}, {Missed'em-five},
     {OS/2} and any {Microsoft} product.
     [{Jargon File}]

In order to demonstrate that something is "bloat", you have to
demonstrate that including it causes a problem which outweighs the

Note that you have to do this in an environment where .5Gb of memory,
120Gb hard drives, and 1GHz processors are relatively common, and so
losing a few hundred kb of storage is not likely to bother you
much. Certainly doesn't bother me.

[As a side note, this implies that "bloat" is a context-sensitive
term, and not an absolute - much like "fast".]

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