Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I've just orphaned slrn-ja (#182435), jed-ja (#182434) and slang1-ja > (#182433). Can some japanese folks or the maintainers of the regular > packages of these tools check if the -ja variants are still needed? > If not, reassign the bug to ftp.debian.org and retitle it to "Please > remove". If yes, why hasn't japanese support been integrated in the > main packages yet? For slrn, it has not been integrated because it is a huge, gross patch. I attach some old correspondence about it. It's also likely quite out of date; I notice slrn-ja is at 0.9.6.2-1 to slrn's 0.9.7.4-29. In 0.9.7.2, slrn got fully localized the right way via gettext, although that does not address everything needed for proper Japanese support. BTW, a fully utf-8 capable slrn is slated for release "as soon as slang 2.0 is out". -- see shy jo
From kikutani@sprintmail.com Tue Apr 27 02:52:28 1999 Return-Path: <kikutani@sprintmail.com> Delivered-To: joey@kitenet.net Received: (qmail 27501 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 02:52:28 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by adsl-209-233-23-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 02:52:28 -0000 Received: from sprintmail.com (ip85.boston-xcom.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.199.85]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06010; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904270252.TAA06010@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:54:07 -0400 From: Kikutani Makoto <kikutani@sprintmail.com> To: Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> Subject: Re: Uploaded slrn-ja 0.9.5.5-1 (source i386) to master References: <E10bsyM-00035o-00@localhost> <19990426194119.D12932@kitenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i-jp2 In-Reply-To: <19990426194119.D12932@kitenet.net>; from Joey Hess on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0700 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 817 Lines: 28 Hi, On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0700, Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> wrote: > Hi, I'm the maintainer of slrn. Is there any way that the slrn-ja patch > could just be added to the stock slrn package, getting rid of the need for > two packages? Well, if John E. Davis took the Japanese patch into his original source, it would be easy to handle it. Because making Japanese version is just adding -DKANJI option to CFLAGS. But the Japanese patch is being developed independently. So the patch comes sometimes long after the original version is released. I'd appreciate if you could use the Japanese patch and make a multi-binary package. You can get The patch from: http://home.sprintmail.com/~kikutani/slrn.html (sorry, written in Japanese) Thank you. makoto -- Kikutani, Makoto kikutani@sprintmail.com From kikutani@sprintmail.com Tue Apr 27 03:40:13 1999 Return-Path: <kikutani@sprintmail.com> Delivered-To: joey@kitenet.net Received: (qmail 29616 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 03:40:11 -0000 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62) by adsl-209-233-23-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 03:40:11 -0000 Received: from sprintmail.com (ip183.boston-xcom.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.199.183]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA23721 for <joey@kitenet.net>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904270340.UAA23721@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:41:50 -0400 From: Kikutani Makoto <kikutani@sprintmail.com> To: Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> Subject: Re: Uploaded slrn-ja 0.9.5.5-1 (source i386) to master References: <E10bsyM-00035o-00@localhost> <19990426194119.D12932@kitenet.net> <199904270252.TAA06010@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <19990426200324.E12932@kitenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i-jp2 In-Reply-To: <19990426200324.E12932@kitenet.net>; from Joey Hess on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 08:03:24PM -0700 Status: RO Content-Length: 1200 Lines: 36 On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 08:03:24PM -0700, Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> wrote: > Hm, why would I need a multi-binary package? Does adding the patch adversly > effect people who are not using the japanses features? I think slrn with the Japanese patch should behave as same as original slrn unless doing 'set japanese_messages 1' in ~/.slnrrc. But I'm not sure this. The author of the Japanese patch made a pretty extention over slrn, such as: support ISO-8859-X emacs like line wrapping GMT to local time modify mime-encoder to be compliant to RFC2047 mouse click URL to launch browser support KOI8-R modify how to display multipart articles CYGWIN-B20(MINGW32) patch OS/2 patch support UTF7 encoding Pls don't ask me what they are :-) I'm afraid there might be some side effect. I forgot to mention about another potential problem. slrn-ja depends on slang1-ja which is also used by both jed-ja and mutt-ja. I made slang1-ja so that it can coexist with original slang1(-dev), ie. the shared lib name is libslang-ja.so and slang.h is under /usr/include/slang. Does this make it difficult to make your package ? makoto -- Kikutani, Makoto kikutani@sprintmail.com
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