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Re: Bug#176267: ITP: mplayer -- Mplayer is a full-featured audioand video player for UN*X like systems



I was prepared to answer the points earlier in this message, but I've
decided that beyond establishing a patern, they have no importance to
debian-devel, or the eventual (?) inclusion of mplayer in debian.

Also note that I only spent a few minutes looking into the state of
code in mplayer. It's highly likely that there are other license and
copyright irregularities in the codebase as well.[1]

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Gabucino wrote:
> Ehh ;) Would you like an >500k diff included in the libmpeg2/ dir?

No. What you need is on every single file in the libmpeg2 directory a
notification stating that this file was modified (if indeed it has
been) and ideally, a changelog describing the modifications.

> See? We won't provide diffs, as long as both sources are in close vicinity.

Huh? The diff was just to provide an illustration of the modifications
to libmpeg2 which need to be documented.

> Also: our libmpeg2 is NOT 0.3.1! It's a modified 0.2.x .

It's apparently a libmpeg2 0.2.1-CVS version, with totally unknown
modifications made to it:

   mplayer v0.11-pre27-CVS:
     - updated libmpeg2 source to libmpeg2-0.2.1-CVS version
  
   mplayer v0.11-pre26-CVS:
     - updated libmpeg2 source to libmpeg2-0.2.0 version

These are the only two changelog entries regarding libmpeg2 that I
could find.[2]
     
> Well I highly doubt that every program in Debian (that uses modified
> libs) includes diffs.. :) But:

I'm not aware of a single example of a program that uses a GPLed
library internally that doesn't include information on the fact that
there were modifications made. If there were such a thing, I'm pretty
sure that the upstream would correct it as quickly as possible.

And, yes, Debian does distribute diffs for all changes made to a
pristine upstream source. [At least, properly packaged packages do.]

> Well since xine is already in debian, I don't see any reason why
> MPlayer shouldn't be. 

The above is just a small slice of the issues which have caused Debian
to shy away from including mplayer.

> So live with it.

Debian, and the Free Software world in general has a nasty habit of
not living with it. It's quite contagious too.


Don Armstrong

1: No I don't know what they are. I just went into the first lib dir
in the source code that I found, and mucked about looking for
information as to what changes had been made to it.
2: MPlayer-0.90rc1/ChangeLog
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