I was prepared to answer the points earlier in this message, but I've decided that beyond establishing a patern, they have no importance to debian-devel, or the eventual (?) inclusion of mplayer in debian. Also note that I only spent a few minutes looking into the state of code in mplayer. It's highly likely that there are other license and copyright irregularities in the codebase as well.[1] On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Gabucino wrote: > Ehh ;) Would you like an >500k diff included in the libmpeg2/ dir? No. What you need is on every single file in the libmpeg2 directory a notification stating that this file was modified (if indeed it has been) and ideally, a changelog describing the modifications. > See? We won't provide diffs, as long as both sources are in close vicinity. Huh? The diff was just to provide an illustration of the modifications to libmpeg2 which need to be documented. > Also: our libmpeg2 is NOT 0.3.1! It's a modified 0.2.x . It's apparently a libmpeg2 0.2.1-CVS version, with totally unknown modifications made to it: mplayer v0.11-pre27-CVS: - updated libmpeg2 source to libmpeg2-0.2.1-CVS version mplayer v0.11-pre26-CVS: - updated libmpeg2 source to libmpeg2-0.2.0 version These are the only two changelog entries regarding libmpeg2 that I could find.[2] > Well I highly doubt that every program in Debian (that uses modified > libs) includes diffs.. :) But: I'm not aware of a single example of a program that uses a GPLed library internally that doesn't include information on the fact that there were modifications made. If there were such a thing, I'm pretty sure that the upstream would correct it as quickly as possible. And, yes, Debian does distribute diffs for all changes made to a pristine upstream source. [At least, properly packaged packages do.] > Well since xine is already in debian, I don't see any reason why > MPlayer shouldn't be. The above is just a small slice of the issues which have caused Debian to shy away from including mplayer. > So live with it. Debian, and the Free Software world in general has a nasty habit of not living with it. It's quite contagious too. Don Armstrong 1: No I don't know what they are. I just went into the first lib dir in the source code that I found, and mucked about looking for information as to what changes had been made to it. 2: MPlayer-0.90rc1/ChangeLog -- She was alot like starbucks. IE, generic and expensive. -- hugh macleod http://www.gapingvoid.com/batch3.htm http://www.donarmstrong.com http://www.anylevel.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu
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