On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 11:30:25AM -0600, Hunter Peress wrote: > > It simply isn't bullshit. I am using Debian on one 486 and some 586 on > > my own, and I know that there are others. Don't call facts bullshit. > Actually, it does this argument no good to cite your particular > situation. Next, my proposal is simply to get an i686 distro out there, > and through this experimentation it should become obvious that it is in > higher demand than i386. Again, there is NOTHING more to say on this end > until tests have been done and actual distro/server is out there (more > below...). "Our priorities are our users" does not mean "We will jump to implement whatever our users (who do not always understand software) perceive to be a good idea without regard for the technical validity of it." So yes, please provide some solid benchmarks generated in a controlled environment to show why it's worth optimizing a fair portion of our software for i686. Hard evidence is *always* welcome. > Next (assuming positive results,(else: work stops here)): > I will publicize them, thereby I will be able to find someone in the > debian community with build experience to help me with the process of > starting an i686 distro. (Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de> seemed to start me > off with some tips..., but I think that making it completely like > another architecture is the way to go, instead of replacing the major > packages within the i386 arch). Please publicize the results ESPECIALLY if they are not positive, so we might hope to put a quick end to these threads when they pop up in the future. Note that to justify a completely distinct architecture instead of selective optimization of packages, your results would need to show a significant performance *across the board*. I'm dubious that this is really what you'll find. > Beyond: Enjoy the fruits of laber. Laugh at gentoo (or be scared of them > (who knows what they'll be like at this point)). Definitely a laugh. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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