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Re: Is Sid for broken stuff? Is it too much to ask for testing the packages?



On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:46:57PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry scribbled:
> On Wednesday 11 December 2002 17:35, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >
> > If the possibility of eat-your-system bugs in unstable could cost you
> > important data or lead to expensive downtime, *don't run unstable on
> > those systems*!  Being a developer and helping turn unstable into stable
> > doesn't mean letting bugs affect your work.
> >
> 
> Indeed.  Colin Walters (or is it Chris Waters) hasa wonderful howto on his 
> people.d.o site about how to setup a Debian chroot with debootstrap and 
> getty.  So tty6's getty will log you into a chroot'ed unstable system and say 
> tty5 could get you into a chroot'ed testing system all the while you are 
> actually running stable for your day to day tasks.  He even explains how to 
> setup gdm so your X sessions are run from within the chroot.
Sweet, I hope some developers will read that howto and work as recommended
in it.

> Yes some people need to test more.  Yes it would be a good thing.  But until 
> we all magically get 5 - 10 hours more a week to dedicate to this project how 
> about everyone just help out, report the issues found and trying to be 
> positive.
Please, take a while to read my original mail again and another while to
study the bugs I mentioned. You will see that there was no way the packages
could break that way unless they weren't tested on the maintainer's system.
And this is the _only_ thing I'm worried about - there are way too many
stupid and upright mistakes in the packages being uploaded. In all the cases
I mentioned simple installing of the packages on their system would have
taken care of all "bug squashing". That's all I ask - please, please, at
least INSTALL the packages you build.

thanks,
marek

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